Tod chats about the generational challenge facing Boomer-aged pastors in an era they were not prepared or trained for, as well as how to lead through seasons and places of incredible change. Tod's book, "Canoeing the Mountains", parallels the journey of Lewis and Clark with the journey the western Church is on in post-Christendom. Luckily, Tod brings a spirit of hope and faithfulness in the midst of great uncertainty. This is a conversation greatly worth your listen.
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